Authorities have not started hearing about the recently promulgated by Vladimir Goncharik interrogation protocols and reports showing that the ... Many people doubt the authenticity of these documents. It turns out that the original documents. At least, so says one of its authors, former head of the prison number 1 Oleg Alkaev:.
- I certify: a report written by my hand, minutes of the interrogation, of course, the investigator printed, but with my words, I signed it under every leaf. Documents themselves, apparently, destroyed. However, copies of original documents removed from. Once again I reiterate: I wrote a report to the Minister of the Interior Naumov. Another thing is, as admitted that the whole thing splashed on the pages of newspapers and how the country is kept secret. But this - the questions are not for me.
- According to published documents, you are quite frankly answered questions of the investigator. Do not fear that the government adequately respond to these statements?.
- Legitimate persecution I was afraid and did not fear, but from illegal ( for example, pursued Zakharenko ) I am able to defend himself. It surprises me that people who claim that they slandered me, do not go to court. Well, went to court, let the cause, the truth, I was again interrogated, others from the current Prosecutor General Sheiman. But neither Sivakov or Sheiman, nor anyone else in the court did not address.
- Pistol, photos of which were published by Belarusian newspapers, this gun from Minsk remand prison or something else?.
- This gun from Minsk remand prison. They enforced the death penalty. He kept himself from me and taken out of the holster only when it was necessary to carry out the sentence. For what it needed to then head of the Ministry of Interior Sivakov, I do not know. I have on this account only versions.
- Think again, how the SWAT commander Dmitry Pavlichenko was admitted to the procedure of execution. It's contrary to all rules.
- Dmitry Pavlichenko really came to the jail. He came forward with the permission of my head - Kadushkin Sergei Alexandrovich. Kadushkin told me that he had received a team from the Interior Minister Sivakov. Sivakov directly to me did not address. The purpose of the parish Pavlichenko on death row I was not clear. That it was possible to draw SWAT fighter, I do not know. What was to him the benefits of monitoring the execution, I do not know.
- How did he behave, watching the shoot was saying?.
- He arrived in prison, introduced. I offered him a drink, just in case: you never know, it is not so easy - to look at death penalty. Not everyone will withstand this stress. He refused. Then we came to the place of execution. On that day, shot five people. He was present at the execution of each. At one point he asked the artist why he shot in the head, not heart. ... I was alerted this question: if a person never killed anyone, he can not know how much blood, and where better to shoot. Yes, and you can get to the heart with only a very short distance. Even a good sniper will not give any guarantees.
In this connection I wish to stress that the gun that are in jail in the execution of death sentences is intended to defeat manpower, with a focus. I emphasize - to stress. That is, at a distance, which can run a normal gun, we will not do. He has a low lethal force. So take it to shoot sparrows senseless hunting, fishing, too. The first time came for the gun chief of the Ministry of Interior, Colonel Dick arms and brought a letter signed by Kadushkin. It was April 30, 1999. In a letter addressed to me was an order to issue weapons. I gave, in a book recording all accounting issue of weapons. We returned the gun May 14, 1999 On the whole rusty. And he went to pick up my gunsmith into the office to Dick, who carried it out of the office of Deputy Interior Minister Chvankina. I'm telling you why it's so detailed, because it's real people, not bury it all and they should be questioned. Must ask: ... ...
- In general, you will often come to the strangers to look at the execution of the death penalty?.
- It's unnatural. In general, no one ever came, except the two officers who were supposed to be present. And they were present for a specific purpose - to provide practical assistance. In general, there are moments that are not directly report to state.
The gun is also the first time they took in April of 1999. And this is not normal. No one I know that people are simply afraid to speak. I made a list: At least 20 people privy to the circumstances of arrival in prison Pavlichenko and issuing pistol at the request of the Minister Sivakov. Among those 20 and senior officials, and ordinary members. After all, what is SWAT? . Absolutely all the employees with whom I happened to say, believe that the abduction of people and most likely killing them organized a group of SWAT. SWAT - is the military who do not know who knows what the problem posed. What they are guided by the Code - criminal or military charter - to me and to this day it is not clear. Most likely - someone's orders.
- And before SWAT, commanded Pavlichenko, was seen in criminal cases?.
- Yes. They have a lot of sitting: and were under investigation, and committed crimes. Some men personally SWAT Minister Sivakov rescued from justice. For example, the case of Major Kornyushko. In my opinion, in 1999 Sivakov visited in jail arrested Kornyushko, who was convicted with four or five too sobrovtsami for attempted assassination businessman. Military counterintelligence hyped this thing, sobrovtsy have time and are now sitting in prison.
- When Pavlichenko came to watch the executions, you asked him, why would he need all this?.
- The fact that the shooting - this is a very stressful time, there is no time for talk. And I did not ask, since the Minister has sent - he knows better. Pavlichenko asking questions, but they have remained unanswered.
- You are probably not all he was told, since he wanted to come a second time?.
- Throughout this procedure, two things are secret - the names of the participants in this process and the burial place. Provided by law. Place of burial is not specified, the relatives over the years go by and ask us to give them the body. ( I personally think that, perhaps, should be given, but the law still forbids it. ) In general, to avoid unauthorized excavation, all done in secret, and the burial place of no specified. But I was asked to show Pavlichenko everything, including the burial place. I am as a person executive said today that the dumping will not let him come the next day. The members of my group gathered at the appointed place, but did not come Pavlichenko. I'm not upset, we went and did their job. I suspected then. In general, he told me he said he knew the place of burial in North Cemetery. But I did not either deny or confirm the.
By the way, I can say about one of their own versions, which took up a pistol. It was necessary to give the ritual murder of carrying out the sentence. To remove part of the burden of responsibility to the people who did this thing: here's a special weapon - it is not murder, it is the execution of the sentence. Perhaps, and the verdict was. fake. Sivakov loves all sorts of rituals.
- Do you think the general Sivakov capable of such moves?.
- Judging by his fantasies, capable of. He - a romantic nature, the poet is almost. His eloquence, it still is useful for the protection of the court. He's even managed to calm the widow of Potter. And the funeral service has lost a lot that he does not have a comforter.
- What do you mean?.
- To him came his wife Victor Gonchar. But since built Sivakov conversation that Zinaida Hanchar, and now I consider scum Lopatik.
- Sivakov, in your opinion, is capable of violent inadequate steps?.
- It's hard to say, I saw him only with ... Always look good, always talkative, witty, but apparently, he had a second floor. And his defense is now built quite skillfully, but absolutely hopeless. As they say in the vernacular, he ... This is the worst of all options for protecting. Well, he could have said, ... I - Minister, I have the right. Picked up, make out, looked at, cleaned and returned ... Then the questions would be less. But he is his own way to the departure did not leave. He forgot that there are people. In general, it is not good when the Adjutant General of hiding. The second time came to take the gun Adjutant Minister Sivakov. I came, I got a painting of himself, and returned. So the general hid behind Lt.. Nothing, and asked to starleya: ...
- What do you think he kept a log of issuing pistol from prison? .
- Journal of preserved. And I do not think I know.
- Original!.
- Quite right. When there is an opportunity to present the investigative authorities, the normal investigative bodies. By the way, the magazine they had - and have returned, have left me alone with all the material evidence. Therefore, the journal is saved.
- What do you think the gun is destroyed?.
- I do not think. This is too significant to be. And in principle, even if the gun destroyed, it does not change anything. There are witnesses, and most importantly. Willing to tell you, I repeat, very much. They are simply afraid. But, I assure you, if after the September 10 presidential elections, the political changes take place September 11, the prosecutor's office will be part of the entourage Sivakov, Sheiman, and other. A week later, all the investigators will know how people are missing and what happened to them.
- When you were first on the assumption of what the gun was taken from prison?.
- Probably, the case worked. I came across the ... I have a suspicion there was, I felt that something was wrong. I called my gunsmith and asked to bring a register of issue of weapons. He looked horrified and. April 30 issued a gun, May 14 - returned, and May 7 disappears Zakharenko. Then the morning of September 16th, I received the gun Adjutant Minister of the Interior, 18th in the evening returned to the gun, and 16th in the evening lost Gonchar and Krasovsky. Once may be coincidence, but twice - this is very suspicious, even twice in a bomb crater does not fall. These developments have alarmed me. Even the thought brought me to the journal - special issue of the loss of Yuri Zakharenko, who prepared the organization ... It was written that the witnesses saw a red Zakharenko watched ... And on the red ... This car is known by many. According to the testimony of witnesses can be seen: for Zakharenko is not followed, chased him, apparently, picking up good time.
Now about the gun out of our prison. Imagine a picture. Find a corpse, the corpse - a bullet. No work will not install any of the weapons had been killed this man, because a bullet from a gun is kept in our file cabinet MIA - we were officially handed over weapons and all of its features previously been recorded. Thus, the investigators will know exactly from which gun killed a man. And just come to me and handcuffed. The gun is kept only because I have, therefore, try to explain why this gun had been killed, for example, missing policies. It's inexplicable.
In this operation a certain inherent deceit with respect to both me and the other two employees prison who have access to the gun. At some point, everyone can ... For example, the body will find a year or five or ten years. Who will answer? . And if the missing log book or the issuance of weapons disappeared witnesses who saw Pavlichenko, come to the prison, which gave out a gun. All the chain would be broken.
- When you find it all that do?.
- I immediately shared his suspicions with high officials. (While I will not name names, because they are now in power and might, for they may have taken some kind of repression. ) Each of them acted in different ways: some were afraid, someone just left on the answer. But when Naumov was the interior minister, he was informed that information. It has a large meeting management MVD, the KGB and the Prosecutor's Office, which discussed how a strong evidence against the commander of the SWAT Pavlichenko. These people went to a very great risk, knowing who is behind Pavlichenko, but risked. As a result, Pavlichenko was arrested and what happened next - everyone knows. I do not know why the former Attorney General Bozhelko silent as he saw the criminal investigation in full. I do not know why the silent head of the KGB Mackiewicz. But it will still probably the time, and they will tell about the reasons for his silence, and that they were aware. What evidence has been destroyed, and the people who testified, intimidated - this is exactly. But the time will come, and they all tell you to re-. I hope for justice and I am sure that in the end justice will prevail.
- You fled from Belarus to Germany because they are afraid of persecution?.
- I'm not running. I have been going on holiday to Germany. Filed a report, as expected, it pointed out where and why the food. Officially and publicly, I passed in early July for a visa at the German embassy in Minsk. I have a visitor's visa until August 25. No political asylum to anybody, I do not ask. That's all. Legal persecution, I am not afraid. I am afraid only of provocation.
- When you file a report on the vacation and passed the documents to the German embassy, some action on the part of. Belarusian authorities. have been made against you?.
- When two investigators from the prosecutor's office had escaped and had a press conference for me immediately established surveillance. I quickly noticed this and decided to go on vacation, not to be tempted to somebody. I then searched, even to relatives in the village came.
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